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FW 200 Condoe crash 1944

Post  Oyvind on Tue 22 Feb 2011 - 18:48

Some years ago I saw an article about a FW 200 Condor crash with 40+ passengers involved. The plane came from Finland with
nurses etc. onboard. The wing broke and the plane crashed in Tjeldsundet?
Until the planecrash on Svalbard some years ago it was the planecrash with most victims involved in Norway to date.
I have been unable to locate any article about this on internet.
Does anyone have any information or URL?

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Re: FW 200 Condoe crash 1944

Post  Bjørn on Sat 26 Feb 2011 - 14:49

Hello!
Not much, but it looks as it is mentioned here, search under "Luftwaffe", and then "Transport".
http://www.rafandluftwaffe.info/

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Post  sepals on Sat 19 Mar 2011 - 22:49

Landing at Banak then heading for Narvik


11-10-1944 Focke-Wulf Fw 200 C-4 Transportstaffel Condor
Banak 5A WNr. 0000 163 / Kvantoneset, Lavangsfjord

* Buried at Botn, the others Narvik


ALLIHN Edith Stabshelferin 22.04.1912 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-21
BECK Matthias Obergefreiter 25.03.1919 11.10.1944 B-221 *
BENDA Alois Obergefreiter 21.06.1921 11.10.1944 B-971 *
BLECKERT Heinz Matrose 27.06.1926 11.10.1944 B-1175 *

BUSACK Erika Oberhelferin Luftw 06.09.1919 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-15
BENICKE Eugen Obering. Luftwaffe 31.12.1912 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-7
CHALUPNIK Anny Stabshelferin 14.02.1923 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-12
DORTH Irmgard Helferin Luftwaffe 18.06.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-20
DÄUMICHEN Eugen Obermaat 29.10.1919 11.10.1944 VIII-OA-10
FIEBKE Gerda Haupthelferin 03.10.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-23
FRIEDRICH Irmgard Stabshelferin 02.02.1923 11.10.1944 VIII-IIA-18
GLASER Anna Oberhelferin 31.08.1919 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-13
GRIEBSCH Ruth Stabshelferin 08.03.1923 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-9
GROMMISCH Elsbeth Oberhelferin 06.02.1908 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-16
GÖRING Anna Helferin der Luftwaffe 14.01.1920 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-5
HILL Barbara Stabshelferin 18.07.1921 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-17
HOFFMANN Elisabeth Stabshelf. d. Luftw. 28.03.1922 11.10.1944VIII-BOA-18
HOFFMANN Emma Luftwaffenhelferin 14.11.1921 11.10.1944 Unter den Unbekannten
HOFFMANN Theresia Helferin d. Luftwaffe 12.10.1920 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-3
HUBER Simon Obergefreiter 25.11.1920 11.10.1944 B-1171 *
JANSEN Josef Obergefreiter 30.06.1922 11.10.1944 A-786 *
JOCHUMS Gert Oberfeldwebel 22.12.1924 11.10.1944 VIII-IIA-20
KARP Irmgard Stabshelferin 01.06.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-14
KRAUSE Hildegard Stabshelferin 03.06.1920 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-19
KRENN Franz Major 06.07.1898 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-4
KRÜGER Edith Stabshelferin 27.08.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-14
KRUSCHEWITZ Ingeborg Stabshelferin d. L. 22.09.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-17
LENZ Franz Obergefreiter 10.10.1915 11.10.1944 B-237 *
LEUSCHNER Margarete Stabshelferin 30.08.1901 11.10.1944 VIII-IIA-24
MORITZ Alexander 21.11.1907 11.10.1944 B-761 *
MÜLLER Hans Gefreiter 09.03.1923 11.10.1944 B-256 *
NICKEL Charlotte Stabshelferin 19.10.1919 11.10.1944 VIII-HA-19
NEUMÜLLER Konrad Hauptwachtmeister 18.10.1917 11.10.1944 A-1262 *
OEFFLER Liselotte Stabshelferin 01.09.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-e1-22
PETERS Eveline Stabshelferin Luftw. 03.02.1923 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-1
PITZER Felix Obergefreiter 07.01.1914 11.10.1944 A-896 *
PRAHL Hans Feldwebel 15.12.1916 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-15
RUHL Franziska Stabshelferin 15.01.1902 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-18
SCHIMA Anni Luftw.oberhelferin 16.06.1921 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-11
SCHMIDT Charlotte Stabshelferin 05.03.1921 11.10.1944 Unter den Unbekannten
SCHÖNE Erika Stabshelferin 03.04.1921 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-19
SENSKE Felix Obergefreiter 14.02.1913 11.10.1944 B-862 *
SIEGLER Hildegard Oberhelferin 28.09.1917 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-8
SORGATZ Irma Oberhelferin 23.01.1921 11.10.1944 VIII-BOA-12
THAELE Helmut Unteroffizier 21.11.1903 11.10.1944 B-298 *
THUMANN Johann Oberleutnant zur See 12.06.1906 11.10.1944 B-764 *
TRENZ Angela Stabshelferin 05.12.1908 11.10.1944 VIII-IIA-22
WAGNER Emma Stabshelferin 22.06.1920 11.10.1944 VIII-IIA-23
WEBER Gunda Luftwaffenhelferin 19.07.1922 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-16
WIESENHÜTTER Elisabeth Luftwaffenhelferin 16.01.1896 11.10.1944 VIII-E1-20
ZELS Martin Gefreiter 09.06.1907 11.10.1944 B-138 *


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Grandson of one of the victims

Post  MBenicke on Fri 17 Nov 2017 - 12:12

Hello to the forum!

I don't know if this topic is still being discussed, as the last post dates back to 2011, but anyhow: I would like to add some information.

My grandfather was on board of this plane. His name is "Benicke", but he is being misspelled in this list as "Bömike". His date of birth is also wrong, he was born on 31.12., not on 28.09., as stated here. The date of birth, that is given here, is the exact same date of birth as of Mrs. Siegler, you find her further down the list.

All this misspelling and mixing up of the right date of birth led to the point where my grandmother, when trying to find the grave of her husband, wasn't able to locate it. Furthermore, apparently the cemetary had been rebuilt in the 1950s, so the exact location of the grave, that was mentioned in a letter once sent to her, wasn't existing any more. My grandmother never got the chance to visit her husband's grave until she died.

My father grew up without his dad, never having had the chance to get acquainted to him, as his father died when he was only 1 year old. He visited Norway twice, so did my brother, but the grave was never found.

Half a year ago I read an article about another famous Condor crash in Norway, that was the one they tried to pull up in order to restore it for the "Technikmuseum" in Berlin, but then it sadly broke into pieces. I got into contact with the author of the article, who passed me on to a Norwegian, whos mother observed the crash of this other Condor when she was still a child, and passed the story on to him. When he grew up, he had been diving at many of those wrecks, including the wreck of my grandfather.

This fellow Norwegian made a lot of efforts to find out more about the grave, and finally got into contact with people working at the cemetary. Today he sent a foto of the grave of my grandfather. The final footprint of him, after almost 75 years of uncertainty.

You cannot believe what this ment to me and how much I am thankful to have found this incredibly helpful person. We look back on a devastating war with the German nation bringing terror, agony and loss to the whole world, even to their own country, men, women, children and families. 75 years later borders don't mean anything anymore, when it comes to friendship and helpfulness.

I do hope so much, that those remaining Germans, who glorify WWII and Hitler still today, will come to their minds and recognize, how war and being aggressive is never a solution to any problem, while friendship and helpfulness is.

To bring the story to an end: The "Technikmuseum Berlin" will try to pass on a small piece of the Condor to me. My father - now 75 years old - yet does not know about this whole story. I am going to prepare a special Christmas present for him, including the whole documentation of the search, a foto of his father's grave and - if I'm lucky - a small piece of the Condor.

I deeply remain in the dept of this Norwegian man, I will never forget what he did for me and my family. In the end this will be one of the stories that I will pass on to my three children.

All the best,
Markus Benicke, Germany

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New info

Post  sepals on Fri 17 Nov 2017 - 18:38

I have updated the info


MBenicke wrote:Hello to the forum!

I don't know if this topic is still being discussed, as the last post dates back to 2011, but anyhow: I would like to add some information.

My grandfather was on board of this plane. His name is "Benicke", but he is being misspelled in this list as "Bömike". His date of birth is also wrong, he was born on 31.12., not on 28.09., as stated here. The date of birth, that is given here, is the exact same date of birth as of Mrs. Siegler, you find her further down the list.

All this misspelling and mixing up of the right date of birth led to the point where my grandmother, when trying to find the grave of her husband, wasn't able to locate it. Furthermore, apparently the cemetary had been rebuilt in the 1950s, so the exact location of the grave, that was mentioned in a letter once sent to her, wasn't existing any more. My grandmother never got the chance to visit her husband's grave until she died.

My father grew up without his dad, never having had the chance to get acquainted to him, as his father died when he was only 1 year old. He visited Norway twice, so did my brother, but the grave was never found.

Half a year ago I read an article about another famous Condor crash in Norway, that was the one they tried to pull up in order to restore it for the "Technikmuseum" in Berlin, but then it sadly broke into pieces. I got into contact with the author of the article, who passed me on to a Norwegian, whos mother observed the crash of this other Condor when she was still a child, and passed the story on to him. When he grew up, he had been diving at many of those wrecks, including the wreck of my grandfather.

This fellow Norwegian made a lot of efforts to find out more about the grave, and finally got into contact with people working at the cemetary. Today he sent a foto of the grave of my grandfather. The final footprint of him, after almost 75 years of uncertainty.

You cannot believe what this ment to me and how much I am thankful to have found this incredibly helpful person. We look back on a devastating war with the German nation bringing terror, agony and loss to the whole world, even to their own country, men, women, children and families. 75 years later borders don't mean anything anymore, when it comes to friendship and helpfulness.

I do hope so much, that those remaining Germans, who glorify WWII and Hitler still today, will come to their minds and recognize, how war and being aggressive is never a solution to any problem, while friendship and helpfulness is.

To bring the story to an end: The "Technikmuseum Berlin" will try to pass on a small piece of the Condor to me. My father - now 75 years old - yet does not know about this whole story. I am going to prepare a special Christmas present for him, including the whole documentation of the search, a foto of his father's grave and - if I'm lucky - a small piece of the Condor.

I deeply remain in the dept of this Norwegian man, I will never forget what he did for me and my family. In the end this will be one of the stories that I will pass on to my three children.

All the best,
Markus Benicke, Germany
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Re: FW 200 Condoe crash 1944

Post  MBenicke on Fri 17 Nov 2017 - 21:14

Oyvind wrote:Some years ago I saw an article about a FW 200 Condor crash with 40+ passengers  involved. The plane came from Finland with
nurses etc. onboard. The wing broke and the plane crashed in Tjeldsundet?
Until the planecrash on Svalbard some years ago it was the planecrash with most victims involved in Norway to date.
I have been unable to locate any article about this on internet.
Does anyone have any information or URL?

To my knowledge the plane crashed into Lavangenfjord, not Tjeldsund. The eyewitnesses described a wing braking apart, but this might be doubtful, as other reports talk about the tail braking of. The plane was heavily loaded with 40+ persons, and apparently a fisherman found parts of the tail far away from where the rest of the wreck has been found.

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