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Post  Mathieu on Sun 15 Apr 2012 - 14:47

Hi,

On the 22nd of December 1943 a German auxliary vessel HS(?)81 was attacked by the russian vessel TKA-13 and sunk. The vessel was on route from Tromso to Kirkenes One of the crewmembers that got killed was the Dutch sailor Jan Smith who was born 30-11-'12. According some rumours he was burried somewere in North Norway. A family member is now trying to find out if this is true and if yes, if it is possible to trace the grave.
Anyone of you able togive some advice were to search?

Hilsen,

Mathieu.

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Re: Searching for a grave

Post  vle on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 1:04

This is what happens to fallen german soldiers who was buried in Norway after the war was ended.

"Tyske krigsgraver i Norge
Den norske regjering bestemte at tyske falne gravlagt i Norge skulle samles på noen få krigskirkegårder, anlagt for norsk regning. De nødvendige flyttinger skulle foretas på norsk foranledning, med tysk deltakelse til hjelp med identifisering av de falne. Den norske regjering erklærte at de falne ikke senere ville bli flyttet så fremt ikke offentlige hensyn skulle gjøre dette nødvendig. Eventuelle ønsker om overføring av tyske falne fra Norge til Tyskland ville ikke bli innvilget uten etter godkjennelse fra Forbundsrepublikken Tysklands myndigheter, og da under hensyntagen til gjeldende bestemmelser i begge land. Norske myndigheter tok til etterretning at den frittstående Deutsche Krigsgräberfürsorge e.V. hadde fullmakt fra den tyske regjering til å representere Forbundsrepublikken i alle saker angående tyske krigsgraver i Norge.

Den norske regjering forpliktet seg til å opprettholde, pleie og beskytte de tyske krigsgravene i Norge etter at krigskirkegårdene var ferdigstilt[9].

I samsvar med dette ble de tyske falne på fem tyske krigskirkegårder:

- Alfaset i Oslo
- Solheim i Bergen
- Havstein i Trondheim
- Botn i Saltdal
- Narvik nye kirkegård.

De tyske krigskirkegårdene i Norge var ferdigstilt og åpnet for besøkende i august 1960."

http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/fad/tema/kirke/internasjonalt_kirkesamarbeid/krigsgravtjenesten.html?id=445108

Hope this could help you further in your investigation.
If he was killed between Tromsø and Kirkenes, and buried onshore in this area he probably would have been moved to Narvik nye kirkegård after the war since this is the german wargraves that is closest to where he probably would have been buried originally.



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Re: Searching for a grave

Post  Mathieu on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 10:37

Hi Vidar,

Takk skal du ha! I'll send your reply to the man who is searching for a grave. I'll let you know if your info is helpfull for him.

Hilsen,

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Re: Searching for a grave

Post  vle on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 12:11

Hello Mathieu

According to my files the name of the ship was "Marie" buildt in 1937. The attack was carried out in the Varanger area in the evening of 22/12-1943.




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